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So, has all the unbudgeted income from last season now gone?

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Since 2011 the club has prudently returned to profitability with timely assistance from Tony Wrathall and latterly more substantial financial assistance from Mr & Mrs Hallett. In November 2016 James Brent confirmed that we had fully repaid the PCC loan which had been used to clear the debts to all of the existing 3rd party creditors remaining from administration, and that himself, Simon Hallett and Tony Wrathall had purchased the freehold as equity (ordinary shares not repayable by the club, and no dividend) which prevented future rent and rent increases being paid to PCC, making the club effectively debt free to all 3rd parties (this was also confirmed by Simon Hallett at a PACSA meeting).

In addition there have been substantial windfalls from transfer income, sell on income, increased gates and unbudgeted FA Cup runs:

£280k tribunal decision for Curtis Nelson
£1 million FA Cup run and Liverpool replays
£200k Conor Hourihane sell-on clause to Aston Villa
£300k Ben Purrington: 300k
£420k additional TV money ‘basic award’ and solidarity payment from being in league 1 compared to league 2

= £2.2 million


And not long before that we received:

300-500k Wembley and Playoffs
450k Joe Mason sell-on

= £750k-950k


Some of these figures are obviously educated calculations based on the information we are given so they can be pedantically debated by small amounts of difference here and there, but nevertheless we’re talking about large sums of money running into millions of pounds here.

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Posts on here such as this one since the end of January this year have called for the large amounts of unbudgeted income (around 2 million) since clearing our debts to be given to Simon Hallett to make the grandstand refurb even better, and to bolster our playing budget as we go into league 1 .

Since these windfalls we have seen some significant welcomed development of harpers park training facilities that the club confirmed would be paid for by some of the FA cup money it received, and and some pitch and ground maintenance work at Home Park over the summer. There also may have been some player bonuses for promotion, and we’ve spent a transfer fee of 15-30k on Nathan Blissett and a very small amount of compensation to Morecambe for Ryan Edwards (Derek Adams words).


Given that it has recently been suggested that we have the 5th highest attendances in the division, but the squad appears to be devoid of quality and seemingly built on a shoestring budget, with Adams himself confirming that he’s missed out on transfer targets as other clubs merely offered more money, and other articles suggesting that Adams is overachieving as he has one of, if not the lowest budget in league 1, are we to assume that all of this additional unbudgeted income has now been spent?
 
Feb 18, 2016
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Good question. If it has what exactly has it been spent on and if it hasn't why wasn't more made available to the manager to strengthen for this campaign? It looks as though a shoestring playing budget won't be sufficient for league 1.
 
Sep 28, 2003
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Interesting post, with some questions that really need to be answered.

We certainly haven't spent all that money retaining Carey, so where has it actually gone? If we've just banked it for a rainy day, then that isn't sensible - it's recklessly cautious, oxymoronic as that may be.
 

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Don't you know we almost went bust?? Jeeeez

You can't ask questions like that!
 
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You said about us prudently returning to profitability, but is it known what, if any debts are owed to the various investors/owners and the likely implications of those on our budgets?
 
Aug 3, 2017
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You assume the financial year is running in line with the season. I thought it was not in line with the season which woukd mean the unbudgeted income may fall in next years financial accounts. FFP rules wouldnt allow most of the money you highlight in to a budget until next season?

I might be way off the mark though, it's a pure guess.

Not withstanding, all the teams with lower attendances have smaller stadiums (pretty much). This means they have lower operating costs. The cost of empty seats, kills us. What was it £4 a seat/game or something with the last planning application. This is why I've never understood why we've bothered keeping the grandstand open these last 10 years.
 
Sep 1, 2006
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Brent needs to sell the club back the land he's [removed by Site Admin} and leave. Go develop somewhere else.
 
Jun 2, 2016
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"Spend £1m in the transfer market and you have a striker for a year.
Spend £1m on your Academy and you have strikers for life"
Confuscius.
 
Feb 17, 2017
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"Spend £1m in the transfer market and stay in league one"
"Spend £1m on your academy put blissett up front and enjoy league 2 football again"
 
Jun 2, 2016
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Really need a long-term view. Even when we are financially sound it's hard to compete.
Thus, we need to bring through our own talent.