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Tyhee_Slim":1zt93gqm said:
For postey and IJN who've both questioned my view/opinion that the entertainment on offer is not that great. Ok, I'll own up to not having been to too many games of late but I have to say that I honestly can't remember the last time I watched Argyle and saw anything other than a load of journeyman footballers more or less, Argyle teams thst could hardly string two passes together etc. Sorry, but it's rubbish. Postey tries to paper over this by saying that 'the first half against Cheltenham saw the best football played by Argyle for several years'. Great - so we played some good football for one half of our last game, and what does that say about the 'several years' in between.

As for the disposable income argument and the choices people make, I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee IJN. We all know how successful your life has been - well whoopdy-bleddy-doo, I'm sure you've worked very hard for it, fair play to you and all that - but, like a lot of successful people you fall into the trap of failing to understand why everyone can't be like it (there are many, but that's not the issue here) and then feel you have the right to tell them how to spend their money. Yes, if Argyle were on the promotion trail seriously, or drew a big club in the cup they'd find a way, but it's ALWAYS been like that - not just in Plymouth but at every lower division club. It's simple supply and demand innit, asva successful man like you ought to realise. You say yourself that you see blokes 'attempting to play half decent football' at Argyle, so by your own admission the football is 'half decent' at best, and that's assuming that their 'attempts' are successful.

Sorry, but it's all very well getting all high and mighty with your 'I was there when we were ***t' badges and the like - I've got one by the way, although I must admit the definition of ***t has had to be re-evaluated, i never thought things would get as bad as they would - and playing the old, smug, superfan card. I've said it before, and I mean it still, if I lived down there I would still be a season ticket holder, but I don't so I'm not, and as time has moved on I've felt less inclination to spend hours of my valuable time and (usually) seventy or eighty quid minimum to traipse around the country just to end up sitting with, mainly, a bunch of numpties watching crap football. Now, I've been a fan for years, do if I feel like that, how do you think the average, uncommitted punter feels.

Once again, don't judge everyone by your own standards (no matter how high they think they are). You've got Argyle in your heart and soul. I used to think I did, but I'm not so sure anymore - it still means a lot, there's no other club or team I care about (apart from in a negative way like Man Utd and England), and yes I'm still an 'armchair' fan inasmuch as I'm still 'tuned in' every Saturday or Tuesday - but I just don't get the same buzz out of it anymore. I always thought of myself as 'loyal' until fairly recently, but sensed that the club was no longer being particularly loyal or fair with the support, and I became fairly rapidly disenchanted. Because of this, I now feel able to understand why people can pick snd choose their matches, or are more likely to wait until the team is doing well, and I will, if and when I start attending games again, be quite happy to be called a part-timer or glory hunter by some self righteous mofo who has nothing else to do with their spare time. I believe I paid my dues years ago and, as it happens, I DO have to weigh up the financial costs these days and at the moment going to Argyle would feel like an extravagance.

So, yes I think Argyle should make the cost of attending games more attractive as I'm sure it would sway enough people to make it worthwhile.

Yes, for several years we were crap but there's no point to keep wallowing in that misery because in the here and now we are a team on the up, finally playing decent football and winning. The good winning football may last for a few more games or it might just continue until the end of the season and promotion, either way I'll still enjoy it.
 
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Lundan Cabbie":3u3va60m said:
Cobi Budge.":3u3va60m said:
It's ok, the club will start advertising the game the day before just like we did for the exeter match :facepalm:

I'm surprised some people still expect our media department to do something useful, I gave up a long time ago.


You do have a point. As a neutral living and working in Plymouth I am only aware of the cheaper tickets for the cup tie courtesy of PASOTI.

Don't tell me you just agreed with one of my posts LC :wtf: :cool:
 
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The entertainment level IS improving, but that has only happened in the last month or so. The improvement was from a very low base level too. I think it will need to be sustained for a while, and accompanied by good results, to get fans coming back in their droves.

We all have our priorities and our reasons for how often we attend. I've made Argyle a big priority over the last to seasons, attending over 80 league games home and away. Overall, despite results and performances, something I really enjoyed and something I'm lucky enough to be able to afford. However by the end of last season my enthusiasm was waning, partly due to said results, but more due to experiences with the club and some comments made to me by an Argyle director which I took exception to. As a result I decided the club didn't need my loyalty and now choose my games. That's a personal experience of course, but the point is that everyone has personal reasons whether to go or not to go, it's a question of wanting it enough.

IJN's right in terms of people spending money on a Friday night. Of course many do, and plenty will surface in time the following day to watch their Prem team on TV. That's not going to change without good reason. The start of an on-field revival might get a few of those who follow Argyle out of their chairs, but the club has to drive this further. As others have said, why isn't there a huge sign on Outland Rd advertising forthcoming games? Why is there no significant publicity for the Pompey game, when there are plenty of positive angles that could be utilised? The club's media department remains shockingly poor, but no one does anything about it. Why can Mr Jones, a marketing specialist, not see how poorly the club promotes itself or, if he can see this, why doesn't he act?

To achieve greater future stability the club has to engage with the people of Plymouth in a positive manner. Snide criticisms of apathy from directors doesn't do the trick. It has to welcome people - newcomers, lapsed fans, glory-hunters, plastics, and everyone else - and it has to do it now whilst there is a feelgood factor. Money is tight, but it is in other areas of the country where people prioritise their football in a way that Plymothians (on the whole don't). They have to want it enough, and they won't unless the club shows it wants them.
 
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Tyhee the Football I have seen at Home Park this season is light years ahead of the offerings of the teams cobbled together/haphazardly assembled and slung together. The Teams I refer to are of course Peter Reid's, Carl Fletcher's and to some lesser degree Paul Mariner's.

The ball is more often than not on the deck and passed about with confidence, conviction and no little invention. It really is a huge improvement - the great caveat is that this team will get better too. Don't get me wrong we are not reinventing tiki-taka in a Barcelona style but for league 2 it is good.

I understand you maybe disenfranchised with PAFC after recent off the field happenings but that is not the fault of the current Squad or indeed the current owner and his team. PAFC is upwardly mobile on the pitch and off it.

It is a good time to be an Argyle fan and boy do we deserve some positivity after 5 years of agony. I am not saying we are going to win the league or get promotion but I do believe we are going to have a right good go at it and that is enough for me.
 
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xmastree":2zvbx6qr said:
The entertainment level IS improving, but that has only happened in the last month or so. The improvement was from a very low base level too. I think it will need to be sustained for a while, and accompanied by good results, to get fans coming back in their droves.

We all have our priorities and our reasons for how often we attend. I've made Argyle a big priority over the last two seasons, attending over 80 league games home and away. Overall, despite results and performances, something I really enjoyed and something I'm lucky enough to be able to afford. However by the end of last season my enthusiasm was waning, partly due to said results, but more due to experiences with the club and some comments made to me by an Argyle director which I took exception to. As a result I decided the club didn't need my loyalty and now choose my games. That's a personal experience of course, but the point is that everyone has personal reasons whether to go or not to go, it's a question of wanting it enough.

IJN's right in terms of people spending money on a Friday night. Of course many do, and plenty will surface in time the following day to watch their Prem team on TV. That's not going to change without good reason. The start of an on-field revival might get a few of those who follow Argyle out of their chairs, but the club has to drive this further. As others have said, why isn't there a huge sign on Outland Rd advertising forthcoming games? Why is there no significant publicity for the Pompey game, when there are plenty of positive angles that could be utilised? The club's media department remains shockingly poor, but no one does anything about it. Why can Mr Jones, a marketing specialist, not see how poorly the club promotes itself or, if he can see this, why doesn't he act?

To achieve greater future stability the club has to engage with the people of Plymouth in a positive manner. Snide criticisms of apathy from directors doesn't do the trick. It has to welcome people - newcomers, lapsed fans, glory-hunters, plastics, and everyone else - and it has to do it now whilst there is a feelgood factor. Money is tight, but it is in other areas of the country where people prioritise their football in a way that Plymothians (on the whole don't). They have to want it enough, and they won't unless the club shows it wants them.
 

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Cobi Budge.":1qhpr7al said:
Lundan Cabbie":1qhpr7al said:
Cobi Budge.":1qhpr7al said:
It's ok, the club will start advertising the game the day before just like we did for the exeter match

I'm surprised some people still expect our media department to do something useful, I gave up a long time ago.


You do have a point. As a neutral living and working in Plymouth I am only aware of the cheaper tickets for the cup tie courtesy of PASOTI.

Don't tell me you just agreed with one of my posts LC :wtf: :cool:


:scarf:

Now get back to studyiing the Laws of the Game :greensmile:
 
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I lost the will to live half way through this thread, but am not entirely sure what the club needs/can do to advertise the match more; bearing in mind that any advertising needs to be cost neutral at worst.

It is on the website,
In the herald,
On the AFT Facebook page,
About to go world wide on the RN, RM, Army and RAF facebook pages.
Has /will be tweeted about.

More announcements to come and more stuff in the local press in the next two weeks.
Might even be something on Sky a couple of days in advance.


As one of the organisers of the event, cant we give the media team a break for once- there are two matches before this one and they have started the publicity at least a week earlier than normal- as always there has been an immense amount of effort gone into the day already. All we need is for the good people of the South West to turn up.
 

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GreenArmy1984":3t59psoi said:
Massive Dockyard Derby v Pompey on 15th November 12.05 kick off

Armed Forces day & Live on Sky

Haven't seen much advertising yet with just a couple weekends away

Surely this is a golden opportunity to promote Argyle & The Green Army

Any news on The RBL Display ?

Surely we don't want to see half empty Home Park live on Sky ??

Let's Fill up Home Park Vs Pompey !!!!

#GreenArmy :scarf:


It doesn't look like Sky are showing much interest in any of the pre-match Armed Forces stuff. Kick-off is 12.05pm just FIVE MINUTES after the scheduled start of coverage.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/footbal ... league-two
 
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Yes Lundan but that was already scheduled before they knew there was anything going on other than an ordinary league 2 match. However much we might think this is a 'big' event I doubt SKY will want to change their plans to accommodate us-after all they are paying us, not the other way round.
 
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PL2 3DQ":3fcuo00h said:
If there will be any offers on matches they should be aimed at the less appealing double header of York City and Dagenham, especially with Christmas just around the corner. Both matches for £25 - £30?

I get the razzmatazz surrounding the Pompey game and the club should really promote it but in purely financial terms the £30,000 (£15,000?) received from Sky will help off-set some missing fans.

On the flip side that guaranteed boost in income could be put towards covering the potential reduction in income should a promotion be put forward and fail to attract a sufficiently larger crowd. At the very least it would be a way of the club giving back to the fans that do take up the offer.
 
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Has anyone actually asked the ST holders what they think about reduced prices to encourage increased attendance? I for one couldn't care less what any one else pays. I buy my ST at the cheapest price available at the time and if I didn't think it was good value for money I wouldn't bother. Let people in for free if it is financially justified-it wouldn't bother me at all. I will buy a ST for as long as I decide to support the club-been doing it for 20+ years and doubt i will stop in the next 20. Bit like going on holiday and worrying about what everyone else has paid-you wouldn't would you?
 
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IJN":2dre53w2 said:
Agree entirely with that.

Always bemuses me as well.
Me too, the other thing that bemuses me is why season ticket holders can't use the cash gates, after all they just scan the ticket on the lyndehurst side it's only ever the season ticket holders that have to queue whilst the cash gates sit idle.
 
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lyndhurstgreen":ytgvw5a9 said:
Has anyone actually asked the ST holders what they think about reduced prices to encourage increased attendance? I for one couldn't care less what any one else pays. I buy my ST at the cheapest price available at the time and if I didn't think it was good value for money I wouldn't bother. Let people in for free if it is financially justified-it wouldn't bother me at all. I will buy a ST for as long as I decide to support the club-been doing it for 20+ years and doubt i will stop in the next 20. Bit like going on holiday and worrying about what everyone else has paid-you wouldn't would you?

:iagree: I would much rather see higher attendances at HP than be worrying how much others pay for a ticket