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 Post subject: Re: Pictures of the glory years
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:51 am 

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Plus, it's a huge exaggeration to say that we 'almost reached the Premiership'. We were in the play-off zone for 3 days in late-October.



Not true.We were in and out of the play off spots from October until January- a slump in form caused by the cretinous sale of some of our best players then resulted in a drop to 10th place.Argyle re-entered the play off positions after the good run started by the Leicester game and were still in 6th place going into April.If our players had been retained [and even augmented,as any truly competent and ambitious board of directors would have ensured was the case] then i would surmise that a play off spot at worse would have been a formality and even better things could have been expected,so i don't think that that speculating that the premiership was almost reached was a huge exaggeration.



That is still pushing it though. Argyle sat in a play-off spot on just 4 occasions after the new year. My own team made the play-offs that season and lost to Bristol City in the semis.

That season Palace didn't "nearly reach the Premier League"
We got to the play-offs, and that's it!

Well if 90 mins from the prem isn't close I don't know what is!


90 mins away isn't quite right. You could say that of Bristol City but we were a bit further away. My point is, 75% of clubs making the play offs might as well be a million miles away.

It makes me laugh when fans say that they would be happy with the play offs when they really wouldn't be happy to get that far and lose.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:23 am 

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I'd rather be in the play-off and lose then not get there at all!

Sorry, don't follow your logic at all.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:30 am 

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I agree, plus the extra money for finishing higher up the league.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:29 am 

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Plympton Pong wrote:
I'd rather be in the play-off and lose then not get there at all!

Sorry, don't follow your logic at all.


Being knocked out in the play off semis is such a damp sqib. Nobody can say that at the begining of the season, that is what they wish for.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:34 am 

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The 1951-52 team won the old Division 3 South , and the 1952-53 team finished 4th in old Division 2, now the Championship, If there had been playoffs in those days for what is now the Premiership, Argyle would have been in them. With the team we had there would have been a good chance of making it.

Those two seasons were true glory periods in Argyle's history.

And, of course, the 1961-62 side who finished fifth in the Second Division. Third with six games to go, the form team in the League. The six fixtures included four against teams in the bottom two. Yeah, you've guessed. Five defeats and one draw and another busted flush. No Argyle team has gone that close in the intervening 50 years. It was Liverpool who went up as champions. Since then they have never finished lower than 8th in the top tier since! Argyle? Downward spiral I am afraid with a brief and brave attempt by Dave Smith's side the only genuine near-miss.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:35 pm 
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Well the team which reached 4th in the Championship, and had several other spells in the playoffs, never finished the season together. The team that ended it was different to the team that started - so pointing out the inconsistent results and the downslide kind of reinforces the point.

From memory, firstly Holloway and the management team left in November. I can't remember the exact order, but something like Buzsaky to QPR, Gosling to Everton, Norris to Ipswich, Ebanks Blake to Wolves and Hayles to Leicester? Was that all in the one January window? Halmosi, Nalis, Sawyer and Paul Connolly in the summer. Timar got seriously injured. Seip started his revolt against Sturrock. And we all know what happened to McCormick.

So if there ever was a 'glory years' team it would have been exactly those players.

----------McCormick

Connolly - Timar - Seip - Sawyer

Norris - Buzsaky - Nalis - Halmosi

-----Ebanks Blake - Hayles


Bench/Squad: Larrieu, Doumbe, Abdou, Gosling, Lee Martin, Easter.


I have every confidence that those players if given the season together would have finished at least top 6. We were beating play off teams away, scoring great goals, keeping clean sheets. It was a great time to be green.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:44 pm 

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Deacster wrote:
Glory years for me was Luggys first spell and that electric if fruitless season under Shilton. The Holloway years for me were just a case of what could have been, but no glory.


Yeah see what you mean, we should have had glory under Holloway that's for sure.


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ejh wrote:
----------McCormick

Connolly - Timar - Seip - Sawyer

Norris - Buzsaky - Nalis - Halmosi

-----Ebanks Blake - Hayles


Bench/Squad: Larrieu, Doumbe, Abdou, Gosling, Lee Martin, Easter.
Sniff :cry: :cry:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:39 pm 
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And we didn't embarass ourselves at Aresenal either.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:54 pm 
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Ghost wrote:
ejh wrote:
----------McCormick

Connolly - Timar - Seip - Sawyer

Norris - Buzsaky - Nalis - Halmosi

-----Ebanks Blake - Hayles


Bench/Squad: Larrieu, Doumbe, Abdou, Gosling, Lee Martin, Easter.
Sniff :cry: :cry:


That was probably the best midfield in the entire division.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:07 am 
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Dan Ellard wrote:
Ghost wrote:
ejh wrote:
----------McCormick

Connolly - Timar - Seip - Sawyer

Norris - Buzsaky - Nalis - Halmosi

-----Ebanks Blake - Hayles


Bench/Squad: Larrieu, Doumbe, Abdou, Gosling, Lee Martin, Easter.
Sniff :cry: :cry:


That was probably the best midfield in the entire division.



The defence wasn't half bad either! Connolly had such an engine, him and Norris had the stamina of olympians and made it so difficult for opposition wingers to break through. Seip and Timar were in the prime of their careers and complemented each other so well. McCormick was in such fine form we could afford to send Larrieu to Yeovil at one point.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:56 pm 

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Greenskin wrote:
crownhillpilgrim wrote:
Plus, it's a huge exaggeration to say that we 'almost reached the Premiership'. We were in the play-off zone for 3 days in late-October.



Not true.We were in and out of the play off spots from October until January- a slump in form caused by the cretinous sale of some of our best players then resulted in a drop to 10th place.Argyle re-entered the play off positions after the good run started by the Leicester game and were still in 6th place going into April.If our players had been retained [and even augmented,as any truly competent and ambitious board of directors would have ensured was the case] then i would surmise that a play off spot at worse would have been a formality and even better things could have been expected,so i don't think that that speculating that the premiership was almost reached was a huge exaggeration.

Agree entirely Blackpool did it & are still doing it with the backing if the board!!!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:14 am 
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Blackpool were a great gauge of how Argyle were likely to have done. If they had sold Charlie Adam and 2/3 other important first teamers in January, they probably wouldn't have finished higher than 10th either.


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