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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:45 pm 
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So we now know who Trump believes when it comes to intelligence information. It is Fox News who were the source of the GCHQ accusers.


There aren't really words for it, are there? We've used all the adjectives on previous politicians, they cease to have the proper impact now. 'Useless, inept, disgraceful, stupid, stubborn, clueless' etc etc. They haven't been used properly until now.

To bemoan fake news with every tweet and press conference, then launch an accusation that could threaten the foundations of the US-UK relationship... on the basis of a Fox News conspiracy theorist, who even THEY have now distanced themselves from.... is stupid, childlike and irresponsible beyond words. And this is the President of the United States we are talking about.

As we speak, the sh*t is hitting the fan between him and the FBI director. This farce can't go on for four years, can it?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:36 pm 
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pilgrimage wrote:
So we now know who Trump believes when it comes to intelligence information. It is Fox News who were the source of the GCHQ accusers.


There aren't really words for it, are there? We've used all the adjectives on previous politicians, they cease to have the proper impact now. 'Useless, inept, disgraceful, stupid, stubborn, clueless' etc etc. They haven't been used properly until now.

To bemoan fake news with every tweet and press conference, then launch an accusation that could threaten the foundations of the US-UK relationship... on the basis of a Fox News conspiracy theorist, who even THEY have now distanced themselves from.... is stupid, childlike and irresponsible beyond words. And this is the President of the United States we are talking about.

As we speak, the sh*t is hitting the fan between him and the FBI director. This farce can't go on for four years, can it?

The thing is - have you noticed how quickly we’ve all become blasé about it though? Not long ago a PM or President inadvertently saying something that was clearly factually wrong got the full shock-horror treatment by the press & media and was a cause for deep embarrassment. Making an accusation with little evidence, and especially if it was subsequently shown to be false was a resignation issue.

But Trump comes out with all kinds of utter b’ollox and it gets a ‘well-what-do-you-expect?’ indifference that is forgotten in a day or two when he comes out with something else equally or more patently stupid. I heard the editor of the New York Post commenting that everyone else operates in a reality in which you need evidence & facts for something to be true but Trump believes that by him simply saying something makes it true. I’m not sure of the correct medical terminology but it is a form of delusional mental illness


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:28 pm 
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Exactly. There are only so many times you can call him out before it gets boring.

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that he's undermined the foundations of political reality. If you were called out on something in the past, you used to have to argue your case and there were repercussions if you were wrong.

Now you don't have to engage or justify yourself at all, you just shout FAKE NEWS at anything you don't like and the masses believe you. Partly because their trust in national institutions has been eroded over a period of 30 or more years, and they're glad to have someone 'tell it like it is'. The tragedy being that he's worse for those people than any that have come before, as we can see with his brutal budget and healthcare plan.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:20 am 
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I believe that he is a paranoid schizophrenic with multiple (and I use the term loosely) personalities.

In a word - fruitcake!

He actually believes the sh!te that he comes out with.

Has a POTUS been committed before?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:53 am 
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Biggs wrote:
This farce can't go on for four years, can it?


I think we'll find out soon enough. This has not been a good week for Trump with the revelations that the FBI have been investigating the Trump campaign and it's links with Russia since the middle of last year. Adam Schiff yesterday tortured the language to say he'd seen evidence that was "more than circumstantial" that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, and John McCain pretty much kneecapped Devin Nunes by saying there needs to be a special committee. We're on approach to "What did the president know, and when did he know it?"

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Quinny wrote:
Biggs wrote:
This farce can't go on for four years, can it?


I think we'll find out soon enough. This has not been a good week for Trump with the revelations that the FBI have been investigating the Trump campaign and it's links with Russia since the middle of last year. Adam Schiff yesterday tortured the language to say he'd seen evidence that was "more than circumstantial" that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, and John McCain pretty much kneecapped Devin Nunes by saying there needs to be a special committee. We're on approach to "What did the president know, and when did he know it?"


It's all a bit like an episode of Scandal ...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:03 pm 
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Frank_Butcher wrote:
Quinny wrote:
Biggs wrote:
This farce can't go on for four years, can it?


I think we'll find out soon enough. This has not been a good week for Trump with the revelations that the FBI have been investigating the Trump campaign and it's links with Russia since the middle of last year. Adam Schiff yesterday tortured the language to say he'd seen evidence that was "more than circumstantial" that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, and John McCain pretty much kneecapped Devin Nunes by saying there needs to be a special committee. We're on approach to "What did the president know, and when did he know it?"


It's all a bit like an episode of Scandal ...



But very dangerous.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:17 pm 
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And...booooooooooom!

There goes the vote to reform Obamacare.

That was one of, if not the biggest item on his bent agenda...after the wall...the GREAT wall!

What's his "popularity rating"? 35%? So, effectively, he has lost at least 15% of the voters in his own party.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:51 pm 
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I couldn't help but chuckle at 30-odd Republicans who rebelled but Trump still managed to blame the Democrats.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:13 am 
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Wonder if people will now start to elevate the performance of Obama as a president, based on the imbecile that has followed him.

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Strange how he declared 'that he would 'drain the swamp in Washington'.

But now has appointed half of his family to serve in his administration
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:23 pm 
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Martyn wrote:
Strange how he declared 'that he would 'drain the swamp in Washington'.

But now has appointed half of his family to serve in his administration
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Facts wrong yet again Martyn - only family member in his administration is Jared Kushner, his son in law, who is a senior advisor.

Didn't Kennedy appoint his brother as Attorney General?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:58 am 
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Greenrod wrote:
Martyn wrote:
Strange how he declared 'that he would 'drain the swamp in Washington'.

But now has appointed half of his family to serve in his administration
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Facts wrong yet again Martyn - only family member in his administration is Jared Kushner, his son in law, who is a senior advisor.

Didn't Kennedy appoint his brother as Attorney General?


His daughter, whilst unpaid, is an official government employee.

She is on his staff as an advisor.

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