RCC Green wrote:
Now we have a better understanding of what happened at Hillsborough perhaps the Liverpool fans can tell the truth about Heysel and give hope to the parents of the 39 men, women and children that died in that awful tragedy???? No chance, it wasn't their fault of course.
Whats to tell, people have gone to prison and the truth has never being witheld about Heysel. Where have the Liverpool fans tried to cover up anything? The parents of the 39 people who died have always know that rioting Liverpool fans were to blame.
Maybe your to young to remember the scenes at Hillsborough that day, or maybe you beleive Liverpool fans got what they deserve as payback for Heysel.
Either way your post shows a poor understanding of both tragedies.
Really, you got all that from my post? You actually think I would want people to die as payback? Nice, no really!
Athens 2007, thousands of Liverpool fans refused entry to the ground because over 5000 fake tickets has been used to get into the ground. Police closed the ground in fear of a disaster with the ground overfilling. Does this sound familiar?
My point is all we hear is Liverpool fans saying they are never guilty and in Hillsboroughs case the police have admitted responsibility but it's convenient for them to forget about Heysel (which was their fault
) and their behaviour at grounds around Europe since.
care to elaborate? I'm not saying they were completely blameless but what caused Hysel was infact non existent stewarding and inept policing among many others,thousands of ticket-less fans of both sides just walked in with out being questioned, there was very poor segregation and the whole thing was disorganized.
BOTH sets of supporters had been involved in trouble before the game with the notorious italian 'ultras' definitely there in full force with the single aim of causing trouble (the final year year before in Rome Italian fans had slashed liverpool fans as young as 12 with stanley blades) understandable liverpool who were largely unknown for trouble in an era when it was rife were ready to defend themselves.
Inside the ground BOTH sets of supporters had running battles before the game with the police seemingly gawping on and no stewards or organisation of any kind.
Most importantly is the stadium itself, an unfit for purpose dump. What actually caused the deaths of the Juventus fans was after several waves of attacks between the unsegregated and unpoliced rival supporters a surge of fans ran away from the trouble over a wall, the state of the stadium was so beyond its sell by date it (the wall) literally just crumbled and fell over crush those on the other side. Thats what killed everyone of them. It could just have as easily been liverpool fans on that side being killed.
So quite how it was Liverpools fault I'd love to hear why?
It was symptomatic of the absolutely shocking amateurish way matches were allowed to continue in those days and yes the fans of both sides were also involved but to blame them for what happened is nonsense.