September 11th Tomorrow

with-menace · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 pm

Womble wrote:

Greenrod wrote:

I take it GFY stands for 'Good For You'.[/quote

I have no idea. Dont ask with-menace to explain tho, he gets upset when someone asks him to back up his opinions with useless things like "facts".

:crazy:

best back your gob up then
fire away son one question at a time BUT then you answer mine hows that? come on we're waiting
btw if you been bothered to read this thread you'll see I've already answered dozens of questions actually, not that its my job to disprove your looney conspiracy theorys.but I do my bit to help the lame.

with-menace · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 pm

Womble wrote:

Greenrod wrote:

I take it GFY stands for 'Good For You'.[/quote

I have no idea. Dont ask with-menace to explain tho, he gets upset when someone asks him to back up his opinions with useless things like "facts".

:crazy:

btw have you offered an opinion about anything? no? you come on a forum called opinions but only seem to slag of those who actually have one. Lets hear yours then gob almighty. Not got one? oh and if you do please dont just spew up the fetted muck 'what you read in da sun' :clap:

pilgrim_pete · **Joined:** Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:54 pm

Andy_Lannie wrote:

Well said Quinny, well said.

If the US carried out these attacks, demolitions and murders don't you think that at least one of the Employees involved in the Organisation behind it would feel a little guilty and blown the whistle. Just like all those Nasa employees did when the moon landings were faked.
There are only a few companies in the world that have the expertise to demolish those types of buildings and it would have taken them weeks of rigging to get it ready. Don't you think the people working in the building would have noticed people hanging explosives around pillars and running wires all over the place.

Building 7 fell because it was struck by a large amount of debris from the towers, it caught fire and that fire got out of control. Ask the fire chief, it's documented that he 'Pulled' his crew out of building 7 because they couldn't fight the fire. There are pictures feely available showing a large hole in the building and debris from the towers in that hole. Now how do you explain that, who moved?

Some people look for conspiracy, some can make evidence look like something else.

If you really thing the US would murder so many of it's population in order to fight a war in Afghanistan then you really do have a problem. They could easily fabricate enough evidence to walk into any country they like.

As for the pentagon. Where is the plane and the passengers if didn't hit the Pentagon. You have to be able to produce the plane in order to support your conspiracy. The eyewitness accounts ought to be enough.

Agreed.

It's not like they've ever tried to pull it before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

french-doors · **Joined:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:41 pm **Location:** Torpoint

pilgrim_pete wrote:

Andy_Lannie wrote:

Well said Quinny, well said.

If the US carried out these attacks, demolitions and murders don't you think that at least one of the Employees involved in the Organisation behind it would feel a little guilty and blown the whistle. Just like all those Nasa employees did when the moon landings were faked.
There are only a few companies in the world that have the expertise to demolish those types of buildings and it would have taken them weeks of rigging to get it ready. Don't you think the people working in the building would have noticed people hanging explosives around pillars and running wires all over the place.

Building 7 fell because it was struck by a large amount of debris from the towers, it caught fire and that fire got out of control. Ask the fire chief, it's documented that he 'Pulled' his crew out of building 7 because they couldn't fight the fire. There are pictures feely available showing a large hole in the building and debris from the towers in that hole. Now how do you explain that, who moved?

Some people look for conspiracy, some can make evidence look like something else.

If you really thing the US would murder so many of it's population in order to fight a war in Afghanistan then you really do have a problem. They could easily fabricate enough evidence to walk into any country they like.

As for the pentagon. Where is the plane and the passengers if didn't hit the Pentagon. You have to be able to produce the plane in order to support your conspiracy. The eyewitness accounts ought to be enough.

Agreed.

It's not like they've ever tried to pull it before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Absolutely right Pete, they haven't tried it before.

The article mentions specifics of 'drone' aircraft and 'non existent' crew.

Not once does it mention the murder or death of any American citizens :facepalm:

The only conspiracy which might be at play here is the possible cover up by a few very senior individuals in perhaps the FBI, CIA or whatever, who may have had intelligence to suggest the attacks could happen and ignored or dismissed it.

with-menace · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 pm

'but sir our men are on board' I dont care, that ships going to the bottom.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
here's a little outside bet, USS Enterprise deployment in the gulf region when it was meant to have been scrapped,its a floating heap of junk basically.
possibly to be 'sunk by Iran' as a false flag event as the catalyst for the war they're just itching for???

french-doors · **Joined:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:41 pm **Location:** Torpoint

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_terrorism

french-doors · **Joined:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:41 pm **Location:** Torpoint

with-menace wrote:

'but sir our men are on board' I dont care, that ships going to the bottom.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
here's a little outside bet, USS Enterprise deployment in the gulf region when it was meant to have been scrapped,its a floating heap of junk basically.
possibly to be 'sunk by Iran' as a false flag event as the catalyst for the war they're just itching for???

W-M if Iran is capable of attacking and sinking a US super carrier we'd all just as well run up the white flag :shock:

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/ships/carr ... e/cvbg.asp

She's actually due to be scrapped next year

with-menace · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 pm

french-doors wrote:

with-menace wrote:

'but sir our men are on board' I dont care, that ships going to the bottom.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
here's a little outside bet, USS Enterprise deployment in the gulf region when it was meant to have been scrapped,its a floating heap of junk basically.
possibly to be 'sunk by Iran' as a false flag event as the catalyst for the war they're just itching for???

W-M if Iran is capable of attacking and sinking a US super carrier we'd all just as well run up the white flag :shock:

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/ships/carr ... e/cvbg.asp

She's actually due to be scrapped next year

well apparently a man in cave managed to bypass the worlds most sophisticated air defense system and seemingly fly without hinderance into the most secure building on earth so why not?

french-doors · **Joined:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:41 pm **Location:** Torpoint

No he didn't did he. Nor did he bomb trains, buses, buildings in the US, UK, Spain, and a number of other countries. Fanatics who followed him and his religion did. Have another look here;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_terrorism

with-menace · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 pm

Oh dear this will fry a few minds
ladies and gentlemen may I present to you Larry Silverstein owner of the world trade centre including building seven admitting they gave the order to 'pull' the building. God damn commie bar stewards blowing the gig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

french-doors · **Joined:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:41 pm **Location:** Torpoint

with-menace wrote:

Oh dear this will fry a few minds
ladies and gentlemen may I present to you Larry Silverstein owner of the world trade centre including building seven admitting they gave the order to 'pull' the building. God damn commie bar stewards blowing the gig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

OH NO He got a call from the NYFD, so it wasn't the Government who were responsible it was the the fire brigade :party:

Mind completely and utterly un-fried, I must have misinterpreted the bit where he said the 'fire chief' admitted we're about to 'pull' the building down with the fire chief admitting they were unable to control the fire so he would 'pull' his men out :shock:

with-menace · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 pm

french-doors wrote:

with-menace wrote:

Oh dear this will fry a few minds
ladies and gentlemen may I present to you Larry Silverstein owner of the world trade centre including building seven admitting they gave the order to 'pull' the building. God damn commie bar stewards blowing the gig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

OH NO He got a call from the NYFD, so it wasn't the Government who were responsible it was the the fire brigade :party:

Mind completely and utterly un-fried, I must have misinterpreted the bit where he said the 'fire chief' admitted we're about to 'pull' the building down with the fire chief admitting they were unable to control the fire so he would 'pull' his men out :shock:

that isnt what he said at all. The guy still admits the order (who ever gave to pull the building was given.
I'm not getting paid to convince anyone. I do know a controlled demolition when I see one tho as do the countless professionals

french-doors · **Joined:** Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:41 pm **Location:** Torpoint

If it was pulled where did they 'pull' it from then ??
As it went straight down 'they' must have pulled it from underground !!!
How do you know what a controlled demolition looks like ? How many have you actually witnessed ? and why was it controlled? Why didn't 'they' just let it fall down sideways or backwards or up side down or whatever way the 'professionals' would expect it to fall.

GreenSam · **Posted:** Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:30 am

pilgrim_pete wrote:

Andy_Lannie wrote:

Well said Quinny, well said.

If the US carried out these attacks, demolitions and murders don't you think that at least one of the Employees involved in the Organisation behind it would feel a little guilty and blown the whistle. Just like all those Nasa employees did when the moon landings were faked.
There are only a few companies in the world that have the expertise to demolish those types of buildings and it would have taken them weeks of rigging to get it ready. Don't you think the people working in the building would have noticed people hanging explosives around pillars and running wires all over the place.

Building 7 fell because it was struck by a large amount of debris from the towers, it caught fire and that fire got out of control. Ask the fire chief, it's documented that he 'Pulled' his crew out of building 7 because they couldn't fight the fire. There are pictures feely available showing a large hole in the building and debris from the towers in that hole. Now how do you explain that, who moved?

Some people look for conspiracy, some can make evidence look like something else.

If you really thing the US would murder so many of it's population in order to fight a war in Afghanistan then you really do have a problem. They could easily fabricate enough evidence to walk into any country they like.

As for the pentagon. Where is the plane and the passengers if didn't hit the Pentagon. You have to be able to produce the plane in order to support your conspiracy. The eyewitness accounts ought to be enough.

Agreed.

It's not like they've ever tried to pull it before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Not many people (unless they're naive) doubt that the US government is morally above such an action, or that they're the good guys who wouldn't dream of doing such a thing. I agree with you that they easily could do.

The only questions are, A) Are they capable of executing it and covering it up? and B) Do they need to take such a huge risk?

The answer to those two questions are nos, I think.

Frank_Butcher · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:51 am

GreenSam wrote:

pilgrim_pete wrote:

Agreed.

It's not like they've ever tried to pull it before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Not many people (unless they're naive) doubt that the US government is morally above such an action, or that they're the good guys who wouldn't dream of doing such a thing. I agree with you that they easily could do.

The only questions are, A) Are they capable of executing it and covering it up? and B) Do they need to take such a huge risk?

The answer to those two questions are nos, I think.

Talking of naivety, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Northwoods and other such contrived plans emerged from the Generals of the US military or the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the 60's and were propositions made to Government. It is a subtle but important distinction that the US Government dismissed such ideas - Kennedy in particular standing firm against the Generals.

Is there any evidence suggesting the US Government ever countenanced such a plan ?

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