Global warming IS caused by humans

Peter Ryan · **Posted:** Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:07 pm

.. now a sceptic is "converted"...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19047501

But no-one seems to care anymore. Have we given up?

Dave Stoneman · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:36 am

Cornish Chris · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:30 am

That's brilliant, the Koch brothers have chucked millions of dollars at desperately trying to get everyone to forget about global warming. Surely even they'll start trying to do something positive now?

Quinny · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:13 pm

According to this article they will: they wanted the science clarified first.

mike_gss · **Posted:** Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:36 pm

Everyone'll be selling their car then?

No, thought not.

I liked that tanker captain guy in Waterworld. He was cool.

Cornish Chris · **Posted:** Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:37 pm

mike_gss wrote:

Everyone'll be selling their car then?

No, thought not.

That's the point isn't it? The science has pretty much been proven beyond doubt, the hard bit is getting Joe Bloggs to actually do something about it. For once it's the big governments that are taking the lead in general - if the Republican Presidential candidate is prepared to state in public that he believes humanity is the main contributor to global warming, we're heading in the right direction, but it's not a huge amount of use if people (like me, shamefully) continue to drive everywhere and take unneccesary flights.

Greenrod · **Joined:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:26 pm **Location:** Plymouth

There is no chance when you have the likes of China, India, Indonesia polluting and pillaging the land.

Andy_S · **Joined:** Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:42 am

Cornish Chris wrote:

mike_gss wrote:

Everyone'll be selling their car then?

No, thought not.

That's the point isn't it? The science has pretty much been proven beyond doubt, the hard bit is getting Joe Bloggs to actually do something about it. For once it's the big governments that are taking the lead in general - if the Republican Presidential candidate is prepared to state in public that he believes humanity is the main contributor to global warming, we're heading in the right direction, but it's not a huge amount of use if people (like me, shamefully) continue to drive everywhere and take unneccesary flights.

Don't go beating yourself up Chris!

When the advocates for global warming cease to have their conferences in places like Singapore, Bali, Hawaii, Seychelles etc., THEN I will start doing something about it but to have it rammed down my throat by people who hop on a 747 for a week's hot air in some exotic 5 star hotel...well that sort of rankles a bit!

And no! I'm not giving up the 3 litre turbo diesel SUV either!

Dave Summers · **Joined:** Mon May 16, 2005 5:48 pm **Location:** Elburton

Only 3 litres?

Mere childs play!

I can damage the planet more with my 4.2!

greeneagle · **Posted:** Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:42 pm

Hmm, 4.0l XR6, fully ducted reverse cycle aircon at home, numerous flights all over Oz and to Europe.
Not too helpful to the planet, but the wife does take the bus on occasions!!

mike_gss · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:22 am

I only need 8 more qualifying UK business flights before the end of the year to upgrade to Silver. I think I can manage that.

Now if a couple of you tree huggers agree to forego your holidays again next year we can all come out of this "carbon neutral". Who's with me?!?! :thumbs:

Greenblooded1 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:54 am

Greenrod wrote:

There is no chance when you have the likes of China, India, Indonesia polluting and pillaging the land.

With also countries de-forresting on a massive scale to grow crops. The West can tinker with anti pollution measures (USA promoting diesel cars for example), but it's the rest of the world that also mostly needs to contribute:

"Rainforests once covered 14% of the earth’s land surface; now they cover a mere 6% and experts estimate that the last remaining rainforests could be consumed in less than 40 years. One and one-half acres of rainforest are lost every second".Deforestation in the Amazon

Deforestation is responsible for 15% of all greenhouse gas emissions.

WWF Deforestation.

More than 20 percent of the world oxygen is produced in the Amazon Rainforest.

The Disappearing Rainforests

andyr1963 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:05 pm

Greenblooded1 wrote:

Greenrod wrote:

There is no chance when you have the likes of China, India, Indonesia polluting and pillaging the land.

With also countries de-forresting on a massive scale to grow crops. The West can tinker with anti pollution measures (USA promoting diesel cars for example), but it's the rest of the world that also mostly needs to contribute:

"Rainforests once covered 14% of the earth’s land surface; now they cover a mere 6% and experts estimate that the last remaining rainforests could be consumed in less than 40 years. One and one-half acres of rainforest are lost every second".Deforestation in the Amazon

Deforestation is responsible for 15% of all greenhouse gas emissions.

WWF Deforestation.

More than 20 percent of the world oxygen is produced in the Amazon Rainforest.

The Disappearing Rainforests

So when we are finally up sh*t creek, someone somewhere, should have, they really should have, made a paddle. :thumbs:

Greenrod · **Joined:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:26 pm **Location:** Plymouth

andyr1963 wrote:

Greenblooded1 wrote:

Greenrod wrote:

There is no chance when you have the likes of China, India, Indonesia polluting and pillaging the land.

With also countries de-forresting on a massive scale to grow crops. The West can tinker with anti pollution measures (USA promoting diesel cars for example), but it's the rest of the world that also mostly needs to contribute:

"Rainforests once covered 14% of the earth’s land surface; now they cover a mere 6% and experts estimate that the last remaining rainforests could be consumed in less than 40 years. One and one-half acres of rainforest are lost every second".Deforestation in the Amazon

Deforestation is responsible for 15% of all greenhouse gas emissions.

WWF Deforestation.

More than 20 percent of the world oxygen is produced in the Amazon Rainforest.

The Disappearing Rainforests

So when we are finally up sh*t creek, someone somewhere, should have, they really should have, made a paddle. :thumbs:

The Mayan Calendar ends on 21 December 2012, so why worry about Global warming.

with-menace · **Joined:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:46 pm

Tin hat at the ready...I've no intention to defend or prove my opinion but I think 'climate change' as its now called has very little to do with human activity. This cycle has happened for thousands of years and I'm sure we weren't driving SUV's then.
I think we should definitely treat our resources more carefully but whos in control?
I'm not cutting down the rain forrest or suppressing green tech its the oil cartels etc.
Bono and sting dont include themselves when telling us to live like 17th century peasants I believe bono once had his hat flew around the world on a private jet because he forgot it! How many houses and boats,cars,planes,helicopters,staff,banquets does eco warrior Prince Charles have?
A damn site more than us but we're still the problem.
I have read books from the 60's and beyond that state eco issues will be used as a tool to further aims of certain political classes such as fabian socialists. Agenda 21 and club of Rome literature says exactly this decades ago.
Of course though if we all pay more tax the boogie man will go away and those sad looking polar bears you see on a melted ice burg will have pristine snowy wilderness to frolic in.

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